Comments on: New Workers’ Memorial announced for Australia https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/ Award winning news, commentary and opinion on workplace health and safety Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:08:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Rosemary McKenzie-Ferguson https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1761 Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:08:29 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1761 I admit that I am a late entrant into this discussion, I am hopeful that I will be forgiven simply because I have been flat out since I have returned from Canberra and the launch of the Deceased Workers Memorial.

The article that Kevin posted was about the Deceased Workers Memorial. my role in it has been exceedingly small, however I can say I am proud to have played the part I was invited to be involved with.
On Wednesday morning I stood in Kings Park on the very site where the Memorial will be built, I am not ashamed to say I shed tears because I held in my hands the design of the Memorial, and I held in my heart the lives lost to all of us via the workplace.
I could see and feel the impact of the Memorial and I could understand the depth of importance that the Memorial would bring into all our lives.

There are many aspects of the Memorial design that I was able to discuss with the design team, there were aspects of the concepts that touched me because of the simplicity of the approach taken -tiny things such as receptacles for flowers to be placed into the various pillars, then ripples on the floor indicating the wider impact of workplace death-

Then there is the lesson for all of us who work within the workers compensation and safety industry to learn. And that is the everyone has the right to return home alive and well.

For now I am not willing to debate if legislation is the way to go or if unions have strayed from their core business.
For now I want to simply celebrate the achievement of a truly stunning Memorial that will provide solace to all those who have lost a loved one by showing that we as a Nation have also lost a loved one.

There will be a time and a place where my points of view in regard to legislation can be debated, but not now.
Now I just want to celebrate the achievement of the National Deceased Workers Memorial and invite those who can attend to mark April 28th 2013 into their diaries so that we can all gather at the “Workers Glade” and share each others grief and loss.

Yours in service
Rosemary McKenzie-Ferguson
Founder
Work Injured Resource Connection
Adelaide
Founder
Deceased Workers Memorial Forest

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By: Kevin Jones https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1760 Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:07:30 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1760 In reply to Brett.

Brett, this is harsh and unfair. I have attended several Transport Workers Union safety conferences over the years. Some of these had over 600 attendees in one State and all have been progressive, useful and committed to safety.

I also believe that the TWU and the transport industry generally have been the leaders in workplace fatigue management in Australia.
Unions do care about workplaces but also have other industrial agendas. They must prioritise issues for the greatest effectiveness.

I agree with your point on the slow progress on drug and alcohol testing. I have heard that some industry sectors have identified, through drug and alcohol testing, that 5% of its workforce have come to work impaired. Drugs and alcohol are becoming so pervasive that the need for testing cannot be avoided.

If you believe that unions don’t care about safety, I can understand the accusations in your last paragraph but I don’t believe this is the case and I think that many readers will be able to identify tangible safety improvements in Australian workplaces that would not have occurred but for union involvement.

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By: Brett https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1759 Fri, 16 Mar 2012 05:31:55 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1759 Why would the TWU turn up to the memorial service? They wont win anymore money or any elections doing that so its pointless to them!

Unions don’t really care about safety, most unions oppose drug and alcohol testing even though its a major risk to the health and safety of their members.

And lets face it,most unions are merely there to grab cash, cause a ruckuss and get their leaders into labour front benches. The true fights are long gone, they already fought and won them at least two decades ago (admirably for the large part). They now just own property and fund elections.

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By: Di Carroll https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1758 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:17:42 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1758 Jennifer, Rosemary and I advocate for the same thing.. continuously.. Rosemary and I are on par with our tireless voluntary hours, and no funding to help families like yours. Many things need to be fixed, and hence why we highlight the issues on blogs like this… in the hope that someone has some compassion to take our concerns on board and change things for the better . There is a few support brochures on our that may be helpful to your son.

Regards Di

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By: Jennifer Edgemore https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1757 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:49:37 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1757 Ms Carroll I represent my son -a transport driver- who required many long hours of help from Rosemary to help him come to terms with what happened to him and to find a way to accept that he had no control over the event that happened.

Even now Adam still relies on knowing that Rosemary will answer his call regardless of the time of day or night.

My point was not to detract from the Trades Hall Memorial in Victoria, or any of the union based memorials around Australia.
Nor to take away the importance of the various memorials to transport workers such as the one in Tarcutta. (yes I have been there with my son)
My point was to highlight that Rosemary works very long hard hours without any of the sponsors that others attract.

As for the TWU and the government not acting to protect transport workers via legislation, my only comment is that if something needs to be fixed, then best fix it.
I am not able to protest on the steps of any Parliament House, however I can write to the various State and Federal ministers to ask them why such an important industry as the transport industry is not covered by legislation.

Finally Ms Carroll if I have offended you, I am sorry, that was not my intent, my intent was to highlight that there is the Deceased Workers Memorial Forest here in Adelaide, it was started by the person who saved my son’s life. And it does acknowledge the lives lost within the transport industry.

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By: Kevin Jones https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1756 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:40:50 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1756 In reply to Di Carroll.

Dianne

I never drive to Sydney without stopping at the Tarcutta memorial and paying my respects. I believe Tarcutta is being bypassed. Will the Tarcutta Memorial remain in the same location?

On the more general concerns raised in the current blog comments, not all States acknowledge or record road deaths occuring during work activities as work-related deaths, even though work vehicles have been considered as workplaces for many years in most states. WorkSafe Victoria produced a safe driving guide in 2008 but this was focussed to “employers, fleet managers and drivers with light fleet vehicles”.

This issue will be resolved over the next few years as the Work Health and Safety laws are worked through. The point of contention seems to me to relate to the definitional change that a workplace is wherever work is done. With this definition, any person driving any vehicle as part of their work duties is a worker in an workplace and therefore covered by the OHS laws.

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By: Di Carroll https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1755 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:33:20 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1755 Ms Edgemore, thank you for your response and personal view.

I personally know Rosemary and the wonderful work and memorial that is held annually and we network often .

I am wondering Ms Edgemore, if you know who we are and what we do? Maybe visit our website and find out http://www.transhelpfoundation.com.au Once you understand exactly what we do and who we support, you will understand our view.

Yes I have been to the Trades Hall service in Melbourne and was horrified to find on the occasion I went that of the 250 + that we’re killed that year only one wash recognised and that was because it occurred in a transport yard. All the unions were present except TWU on that occasion and I have not returned. hence my comment above !

A final question Ms Edgemore “I would be interested to know who you represent?”.

Dianne Carroll – OAM
Trans-Help Foundation Ltd
Chief Executive Officer  l AdvDip CouncPsych
P.O Box  141   Tarcutta NSW, 2652  I 69  Centenary Ave, Tarcutta, NSW 2652
Ph: 1300 787 996  I Direct: +61 2 6928 7000

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By: Danni Stevenson https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1754 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:08:46 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1754 Jennifer, you seem to miss the point entirely. Ms Carroll is addressing concerns as to why Transport workers are not treated the same as other workers by the government and their own union, not what others are doing to honour them. Trans-help does a great deal already in that regard, there is no suggestion no one is honouring them. The concern is why the government and TWU choose to ignore an industry which society relies on so much and sees to many tragadies. Why are they not as valued as any other worker who has lost their lives?
In regards to the question about whether Ms Carroll or anyone from Trans-help attends in Melbourne, I would ask, do you donate to their organisation, so that they can attend memorials where the people they represent aren’t being honoured? I don’t know the answer to whether they have or not, but as a donor myself, I would see that as somewhat as a waste of time and money, knowing how many they help, better they spend the money aiding those left behind from a workplace tragedy. The TWU have plenty more at their access than an organisation which receives no government support. I didn’t detect anger in Ms Carroll’s post, but I think every TWU member should be, that their own union doesn’t value them.

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By: Jennifer Edgemore https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1753 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:59:53 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1753 Ms Carroll I wonder if you are aware of the work that Work Injured Resource Connection in Adelaide does, in particular the Deceased Workers Memorial Forest.

Every year Rosemary McKenzie-Ferguson (who was mentioned in the article in todays Canberra Times http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/workers-memorial-welcomed-20120314-1v3sk.html ) the founder of Work Injured Resource Connection ensures that when conducting the memorial tree planting that a tree is planted to represent the loss of life in the transport industry.

May I suggest that instead of being angry that legislation does not reflect support the transport drivers that you connect with Rosemary who is making quite headway without demanding that the TWU support her.

Finally a question to you, “Ms Carroll do you or anyone from Trans Help make the trip to Trades Hall in Melbourne as a mark of respect for the transport workers who have died due to work?”
I mean no disrespect to you Ms Carroll, it is just a question that seems to need answering

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By: Di Carroll https://safetyatworkblog.com/2012/03/14/new-workers-memorial-announced-for-australia/#comment-1752 Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:56:18 +0000 http://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=9954#comment-1752 Whilst the memorials are very welcomed I have a huge concern that on average we loose approx 250 transport drivers in their line of duty each year, some 4000+ in the last 20 years and none of these will be eligible to be recognised because the legislations do not classify truck accidents as work place accidents, if they were they would be investigated and we would have less fatalities… Trade Hall has an annual memorial service, and none of the truck drivers are recognised and Twu don’t even turn up… Very hypocritical

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