Comments on: Let’s talk about work-related suicide https://safetyatworkblog.com/2024/03/12/lets-talk-about-work-related-suicide/ Award winning news, commentary and opinion on workplace health and safety Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:27:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Kevin Jones https://safetyatworkblog.com/2024/03/12/lets-talk-about-work-related-suicide/#comment-162925 Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:27:27 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=107290#comment-162925 In reply to Jason Wagstaffe.

Thanks for the perspective Jason. I have no military contact or even indirect connection (I once went to an open day at HMAS Cerberus in the 1970s) so hesitate to write about this sector. I take military workers as special cases due to the deploymernt possibility but I feel chastened now by not considering non-combatant military workplaces and activities. I will rethink and pay closer attention to the current Royal Commission as I already have a folder of reports, publications, Hansards and statements from it.
Reseearch has shown that we should not assume that those who suicide have a mental illhealth – https://safetyatworkblog.com/2022/06/23/not-all-suicides-have-a-mental-health-condition/

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By: Jason Wagstaffe https://safetyatworkblog.com/2024/03/12/lets-talk-about-work-related-suicide/#comment-162913 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 23:48:13 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=107290#comment-162913 There is a tendency amongst the average Australian to consider military service to be separate from work undertaken by those not serving. I have a family of serving and ex-service members and their workplace, for the main, is no different to any other Australian workplace (with war deployment being the exception). I have always considered veteran suicide to be work-related. The current Royal Commission into Defence and Veterans Suicide has shown a workplace full of psychosocial health hazards. Further, when not on deployment, all military departments are required to comply with the WHS Act (Cth), with Comcare as the safety regulator.

Workplace culture has been the big ticket item with the Royal Commission into Defence and Veterans Suicide, and it should come as no surprise to any individual that has an interest in WHS, that workplaces where readily identifiable psychosocial health hazards exist, that suicide would be a realistic consequence.

IMO, the problem is with the way society currently perceives suicide. The fact that we now need to provide the contact number for Lifeline every time we raise the subject is a major problem. It automatically assumes (simplistically) that a person with suicidal thoughts will go and commit suicide simply because they read (or heard) about someone else taking their own life.

I think there is a bigger discussion to be had. However, it is not clear to me who should lead that discussion.

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By: Kevin Jones https://safetyatworkblog.com/2024/03/12/lets-talk-about-work-related-suicide/#comment-162899 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 22:13:04 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=107290#comment-162899 In reply to Woody.

Thanks Woody. The trade unions and the Federal Government would likely argue that there is already an overwork campaign happening, but, IMO, their campaign is that people should get paid for when they work. Fair enough, but that does not address the overwork where people are getting paid for unhealthy and unsafe hours. The payment option could be interpreted a the equivalent of “danger money”.

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By: Woody https://safetyatworkblog.com/2024/03/12/lets-talk-about-work-related-suicide/#comment-162896 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 21:33:07 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=107290#comment-162896 Great article Kevin, many people with even a passing interest in safety would agree with you, But how do we get workplaces to change the culture of “Overwork”
I work with predominantly blue collar workplaces where as much as we say Safety Before Production, this is not the case! and many employees willingly push themselves to keep production going. And in my opinion employers are mostly happy to let this continue.
Maybe we need a focussed campaign on Overwork, let’s not just roll it in with other aspects of safety, let’s make it a stand alone item that employers understand and support, and let workers know that it’s ok to say no?
I look back at some of the key changes I have seen over my lifetime with the increased focus on Safety, the use of PPE, Leadership training, HSR’s, mentoring and many other brilliant initiatives that have improved safety and wellbeing, maybe it’s time for a focus on Overwork?
Woody

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