Comments on: Commitment Interruptus on engineered stone https://safetyatworkblog.com/2023/06/01/commitment-interruptus-on-engineered-stone/ Award winning news, commentary and opinion on workplace health and safety Wed, 07 Jun 2023 07:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Kevin Jones https://safetyatworkblog.com/2023/06/01/commitment-interruptus-on-engineered-stone/#comment-123542 Wed, 07 Jun 2023 07:56:00 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=106119#comment-123542 In reply to Jason Wagstaffe.

Jason, I understand your perspective and appreciate that the silicosis debate in Australia is partly imported engineered stone and local tunnel and construction work. I think it is possible to have two approaches to silicosis, ban imports and increase the testing of air quality, improve underground ventilation and apply better designed respirators and PPE. Including both sources of silicosis muddied the debate because although the hazard is the same, the source and working environment is not, and both these approaches need to be applied in both silicosis circumstances.

As you seemed to point out, cost of dust remediation and suitable respirators seems to be the major sticking point for progress. I get it, but that is at the end of the assessment of reasonably practicable controls. The most effective and cost effective is to ban engineered stone. It will have no impact on Australia’s economy as there is no local manufacturing of engineered stone, and the biggest manufacturing sectors with poorly or un-controlled silicosis risks are the micro, small or black market operators. Minimal job losses but substantial social benefit.

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By: Jason Wagstaffe https://safetyatworkblog.com/2023/06/01/commitment-interruptus-on-engineered-stone/#comment-123526 Wed, 07 Jun 2023 00:59:22 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=106119#comment-123526 I take a different pragmatic perspective into the call to ban engineered stone. I worked in underground coal and open cut coal and metal mining for over 20 years, the majority of which was in NSW, with several years in QLD. Coal workers’ pneumoconiosis and silicosis has been around since colonisation. Silicosis was common when we were drifting down to the coal or metal seams through sandstone and other silica related stone. Aprox. 30 years ago I worked with a number of men that had silicosis that continued to work to keep an income coming in. Since then the NSW and to some extent QLD mining industry, has considered dusted lung to be a preventable disease and has worked hard to ensure that the risk was reduced so far as was reasonably practicable. However, we never banned coal or metal mining (climate change being the exception) even though we know what the causes these debilitating diseases and that our miners are still being diagnosed with it.
I am of the opinion that there is a safe way to cut engineered stone so that all of the dust is captured, however, the cost to implement such control measures will most probably outweigh the price that companies are able to sell the product for. The call for reduced silica content engineered stone, as a proposed risk control, is not an effective control as there is still airborne silica being produced (if the PCBU continues with current work practices). Further, has anyone asked what the other products are in the engineered stone? If it is resin then we need to ask about how carcinogenic the airborne particles are if inhaled.
Finally, we don’t need to ban engineered stone, it is not like asbestos where a single fibre can trigger asbestosis or mesothelioma . We need to make the risk controls such that airborne dust created during the cutting process is negligible. I believe that it is possible, just expensive to implement. We need to legislate the use such that cutting can only occur under specific conditions, with registered workshops. The NSW Resource Regulator requires companies that work on intrinsically safe electrical equipment for underground coal mines to be registered, so it would be a simple matter to bring such a requirement to the engineered stone industry.

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By: Kevin Jones https://safetyatworkblog.com/2023/06/01/commitment-interruptus-on-engineered-stone/#comment-123267 Fri, 02 Jun 2023 06:32:41 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=106119#comment-123267 In reply to andrew.hopkins@anu.edu.au.

Andrews, I am often reminded of Dr Yossi Berger who persisted in arguing over (collective) dusts while regulators waited for data and evidence. That’s okay in some circumstances but with silicosis and other workplace hazards, the evidence comes art the cost of people’s lives. I find that hard to justify.

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By: andrew.hopkins@anu.edu.au https://safetyatworkblog.com/2023/06/01/commitment-interruptus-on-engineered-stone/#comment-123257 Fri, 02 Jun 2023 04:14:15 +0000 https://safetyatworkblog.com/?p=106119#comment-123257 Kevin
Thanks for your persistance on this matter. Dust diseases are a relatively neglected area of OHS, until highlighted by people such as yourself. I agree that engineered stone should be banned. No one can argue that it is a necessary feature of our economy and the risk to workers is just too great. As I think you have said, ALARP in this case means elimating the hazard. It is tragic that we have to go through the same battles with each new source of hazardous dust – coal dust, asbestos fibre, silica dust in other contexts, and even exposure of fire fighters to hazardous smoke etc
Andrew

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